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  Does one need to believe in the trinity to have salvation

  by free thought in

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  quote; " if god were not a trinity we could not be saved the reason is simple.

  by sinning against the king [ jesus ] we sin against the whole universe and the penalty is eternal damnation .

  therefore, god the son came down in the form of jesus and bore the wrath of god the father.

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  Is there really an anointed class?

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  i am of the anointed but care not for the title as i believe that those having put on a christ-like personality can also be born again .i encourage those jws not to be swayed by peer pressure and heed gods calling.

  the year book will very soon not mention the growth of the anointed since the generation change.. things jws have to consider>.

  1* when the scriptures refer to " i have other sheep not of this foal" it may mean gentiles as well as jews of which the new covering of circumcision applied .. 2* the term little flock is similar to the term little book a phrase of commonality used in greek translations .. rutherford acting as veto, to the majority fds as in singular and not plural invented the two class system ,( read his book doors close in 1936 ) which i no doubt will be yet another of wts do not re-print list .. rutherford had an irion handed approach and was not liked among his very own peers i believe god used him only for his legal expertise ( espionage act 1918 vs. usa constitution ) but thats about it.

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  Another encounter with JW at my door this morning.

  by jam in

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  i posted an encounter with a elder a few months ago.. we had a lengthy conversation.

  he knew i was once.

  a elder, served where the need was great , etc.

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  Jesus “Was” but not “IS” Michael!

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  to honor the son is to honor the father.. i am a practicing jw who i believe is of the heavenly calling.

  this post is not to criticize wts but to open honest discussion among mature followers of christ.. there has been much controversy around the wts doctrine regarding the arch angel michael.

  as many are aware, wts believe that jesus in his pre-human existence was michael , gods first born.

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  The FIVE exciting Watchtower Presidential Eras

  by Dogpatch in

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  charles t. russell era (1879-1916)date: late 1800's.

  okay, july 1879 if you want to be picky.. current religious views: many apocalyptic leanings, prompting the origin of several major eclectic religious groups claiming that god had rejected the mainstream christian churches for their apostasy in the fourth century, and that he has now chosen a new prophet, a spokesman, a faithful messenger to re-educate the world as to the truths of the bible, long-lost and unattainable by any normal human being.

  to gain eternal life, man must listen to the new gospel of this messenger(s).. this century sees the birth of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints (mormons), adventism and its various offshoots (including jehovah's witnesses), christian science, christadelphians and other smaller groups, each one claiming a modern-day prophet and new or once-forgotten revelations to the populace, many of whom we find shopping for new ideas, yet disenchanted with the churches.. scenario: a young man who can't understand theology from a historical development point of view begins to feel that he is the "seventh messenger" (rev.

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